Future of Indian Science – Vedic Mathematics, Missiles and aeroplanes
November 15, 2007
The former central government in India spearheaded by the BJP was in favour of introducing what is called as Vedic Mathematics in the school curriculum. Vedic mathematics is neither Vedic nor Mathematics. It is just a set of few simple formulas (about sixteen) for doing some arithmetic calculations. These formulas were discovered by a former Shankaracharya of Puri Mutt. He reinterpreted some sutras in the vedas and agamas and found about sixteen postulates which help in doing some arithmetic calculations and also there are some advanced calculations in trigonometry, calculus and differential equations that can be done using these postulates. But that is all about Vedic mathematics. Being a keen student of mathematics, I could understand these sixteen postulates in a matter of a week and also could do some arithmetic tricks using these postulates. Basically some of them help in doing arithmetic calculations faster. But in this age of fast processors who needs these. I feel the only utility of this so called ‘Vedic Mathematics’ is that it can create the joy of numbers in children. And it stops at that.
Unlike Mathematics as a science which consists of a methodical exposition of algebra, geometry and arithmetic, Vedic mathematics has no such framework and it is a disjointed set of few postulates. Indians invented zero, but that was long long ago almost going into antiquity. I don’t think there is any connection or living tradition between those people like aryabhatta, bhaskaracharya and the modern day Indians. We as a nation can take pride that ancient indian mathematicians had discovered the pythagorus theorem much before pythagorus. We can pat ourselves on our backs on the fact that the indians knew trigonometry, calculus and differential equations much before the Greeks. But of what use will this be. It can to a little extent boost our national self-esteem. We should begin to recognize and accept the fact that what we follow is the mathematics and science that have been handed over from a long history of mathematicians and scientists. When we read the history of science, we see a clear tradition from aristotle to euclid to fracis bacon to newton to einstien; who all worked within the framework of the scientific method. There is nothing of this unbroken chain of scientific tradition in India. We can do ourselves good if we join the bandwagon of the tradition of the scientific method.
This is the same in the Arabic and Persian countries. They had a boom-time of innovations in the fields of astronomy and chemistry more than a millennium ago and they still live in the glory of those ages.
It is not that Indians are not scientifically inclined. I had read somewhere that India as a country has the fourth or fifth largest scientific community in the world ie after USA, UK, Germany and some other country. Considering the size of our growing population we can be the largest in any field if it comes to numbers. But again it is the quality that counts not the quantity. We do have strong role models in scientists such as C.V.Raman, Subramanium Chandrashekar, J.C. Bose, Meghnad Saha, Srinivas Ramanujam and many others who have contruibuted in a big way to scientific knowledge.
We should not be ruled over by these medieval forces who claim that Indians had discovered aeroplanes, missiles and test tube babies. We can appreciate the imagination of the writers of these mythological texts but there is no factual proof and method for developing these things in indian tradtions. In the west many scientific discoveries have followed from wild imaginations and fantasy - like the submarine from Jules verne’s ‘twenty thousand leagues under the sea’ and the Da Vinci’s helicopter. The scientists and technologists in the west turned these fictitious objects into reality. But in India we have no such tradition.
The hope for the scientific community in India is the definitive change in the Indian mindset in the last fifty years but we need to be wary and careful of these medieval and superstitious forces out to capture the academic world in India. It is also a myth that ancient Indian tradition has been predominantly other worldly, content and satisfied only in mental abstractions. The constant series of Invasions turned india into a land of inaction. Because of the political and social turmoil the indian intelligentsia were more focussed on survival than on ingenuity and innovation. It is also a myth that Indian philosophy is highly introverted and have focused on subjective elements of the human mind. The most ancient philoosphy of Sankya has a precise materialistic classification of the world. The scientific method was not new here but it was just not pursued for various political and social reasons and hence we find the disconnect.
But will all of this change now that we are a strong nation with a powerful armed force. We have a lot of social problems with India shining on one side and the India stinking on the other. There are new challenges with globalization assimilating the best talents of the country into doing substandard jobs for multinational corporations. There are not many interested in science and research as there is not much funds for scientific research. For the future of Indian Science lets hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
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1. Pankaj Dhar | March 4, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Dear Sir,
Some parts of your comments are CORRECT and some parts are FUNDAMENTALLY INCORRECT.
The root cause is looking at things in only one way- which we call VERTICAL THINKING. A we get a kick when criticizing our past feeling we have become very scientific.
a) Yes, as far as the boot by Swami ji is concerned- may be the framework is not given(Though I may not fully agree, as one could say it tells an alternate view of looking at things, not a formal framework in conventional sense).
b)
If we look at basic mathematical operations- they should be reducible to addition/subtraction, on the entire mathematics should be on the number line- I mean even the complex numbers could be viewed in terms of generalizations.
So theoretically speaking a good hold on the above basics – I should be able to understand mathematics inner workings better
. Similarly here you have 16 sutras addition 13 up-sutras – to look at things differently- than we have been conditioned to look at it in only one way?
c) A lot of mathematics has come by observation of phenomenon correct!
But we say it is now only science has advanced so much so maths could be advanced so much.
The counter point is that civilizations in the past may be advanced in a different direction/vector- so needing much higher maths. Which needs INTUITION as a pre-requisite to the framework(who says logic is only way to solve problems- we know a lot of failed love affairs due to poor emotions, so here even in the social interactions framework- only logic is not working
).
Now you may say INTUITION is all false/non sense- it is all FORMAL LOGIC
only- then I would say look at RAMANUJAN and HARDY -WHAT DO YOU SAY?How did Ramanujan do better???
d) The key is :
1) STOP VERTICAL/RIGID MINDSET- which is against the very tenets modern science we are supporting.Einsteins theory came against newtons with a change in mindset/framework
2) use Vedic and non-Vedic methods both to your advantage
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3)Whys is prof.XX a better scientist than a vedic seer??
See it is all a matter of honesty to look at things- the person who has honesty will get the truth- only the direction might be different.
Why do you respect one and criticize the other.
Regards.
2. Vibhor Bhatnagar | June 13, 2008 at 2:33 pm
First of all, a very big ’shukkriya’ should go to Shri. Pankaj Dhar for a view so unique and exemplarily expressed.
Respected sir,
I would like to bring to your notice that the basic difference between the western theories and Indian theories w.r.t the circle of intellectuality (this is my theory ).The circle has been created before our existence.The Western Theories revolve aroud the circumference trying to locate the starting point of the circle(origin of advent) on the circumference,which
cannot be located.The Indian Theories on other hand concentrate on the centre of the circle .Though not in contact,the centre of circle is whole and soul property of the circle.This is what Vedic Mathematics does. We just have to establish the radius (intuition) from the circumference( outer-conciousness ) to the centre(inner conciousness). All numbers are nothing but mutliples of 1and 0.
“aant se anaant juda hua hai”.
3. Dr Vigneswari Nadaraj | July 7, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Pehaps the ancients realised the devastating effects of science and found out the hard way that it was not fully compatible with happiness.So they went the other way,inwards.And from what is happening in the so called developed countries today it looks like the ancients were right.
I was reading Mani Bhaumik’s Code Name God,the other day and he reached the stage of having been there,seen it and done it and then what????Now everyone is looking for the God Partcle while our ancient sages described it without spending billions of dollars on particle accelerators.So what will these scientists do after finding the God particle?Renounce the world or blow it up?India ia still India albeit a little smaller and Sanatana Dharma is still around and spreading quietly.I think India has succeeded and will do better when she looks within,while the rest of the world goes to hell in a handbasket.Anyway why shoudn’t we be proud of our philosophy when some of the greatest minds of our time are praising it.Where would the world be today if the zero had not been invented?